It’s the most successful website in the world, but many of us feel icky about using it. Is Amazon terrible for the planet or is it just, y’know, big? And if it is bad, is it any worse than thousands of little shops selling crap we don’t need?

Amazon’s climate pledges and earnest sustainability marketing notwithstanding, we put our “we don’t trust Jeff Bezos as far as we can propel him moon-wards” cards on the table… and then immediately get confused, given we’re both customers.

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