Is running the country on renewables REALLY ‘fanciful nonsense’ that’ll make all the lights go out? How likely are blackouts? What causes them? And is YOUR fridge downloading nudey pictures when you’re not looking? We talk to an energy expert with a large brain, Alasdair Cameron, to find out.

Also, there’s some major babble from burbling miners in Druridge Bay – and as the world’s two biggest polluters ratify the Paris Agreement, why are there STILL so many reasons to be glum?

Sustainababble is your weekly comedy podcast about politics, prattle and the planet. Out Mondays.

Music by Dicky Moore from Bearcraft and Dream Themes.

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