Writer, politician, former Eurocrat, lifelong environmentalist, fearsome Remainer – oh yeah, and he’s also Boris’s dad. Dave and Ol chat all things Brexit with Stanley Johnson.

Stanley tells us all about his hopes and (mostly) fears for the environment after Brexit, stands up for the great British newt, and tells us what he can see at the bottom of his garden.

Sustainababble is your weekly podcast about the environment, with jokes.

Music by Dicky Moore from Bearcraft and Dream Themes.

Available on iTunes, Acast, Soundcloud, and all those types of things, or at sustainababble.fish. Visit us at @thebabblewagon and at Facebook.com/sustainababble. Email us at hello@sustainababble.fish.