Caroline Lucas – CAROLINE LUCAS! –  is the UK’s first and only Green MP, former party leader, former MEP, and pretty much the lone voice of sanity in any political debate.

Oh and she got nicked for protesting fracking. And she wore a “No More Page Three” t-shirt in Parliament. And she pwned Jacob Rees-Mogg in a recent brexit debate. We’re quite big fans.

As another year of enviro-catastrophe draws to a close, Caroline chats exclusively to the Babble about trying to get shit done in Parliament, why there aren’t more Green politicians around, what she thinks of Extinction Rebellion and why she remains positive, despite it all.

Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music by the legendary Dicky Moore – @dickymoo. Sustainababble logo by the splendid Arthur Stovell.

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