Children’s author and illustrator Kate Pankhurst often finds herself addressing classrooms of kids, so she was completely at home chatting to Dave and Ol about her new book, Fantastically Great Women Who Saved The Planet.

As the names suggests, the book bigs up a host of incredible women from around the world who have done more than most to stand up for mother Earth. Some are household names, but many aren’t, despite their planet-saving (s)heroics.

We ask Kate whether that’s kinda the point of the book; that were our society and its cultural history somewhat less unequal, the legends of Wangari Maathai, Ingeborg Beling or the Chipko movement would be every bit as well known in classrooms as their male counterparts.

Fantastically Great Women Who Saved The Planet is out now, published by Bloomsbury, and is the Booksellers Association children’s indie book of the month for February.

Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music by the legendary Dicky Moore – @dickymoo. Sustainababble logo by the splendid Arthur Stovell. Ecoguff read out by Arabella.

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