We only went to interview Chris Packham – star of Springwatch, Autumnwatch & The Really Wild Show! And his dogs.

In our exclusive natter, we ask Chris whether there’s any room for ‘tradition’ when it comes to protecting wildlife. We find out what he thinks about rotters who kill animals for fun, and discuss whether poor ol’ pandas are indeed up an evolutionary creek without a paddle.

Chris even finds time to tell us what he thinks about fracking. And, we ask him what his favourite environmental song is – or are they all indeed rubbish?

Sustainababble is your weekly comedy podcast about politics, prattle and the planet. Out Mondays.

Music by Dicky Moore from Bearcraft and Dream Themes.

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