The UK’s nature is in a state, say the country’s biggest green charities, and they’re blaming the farmers. Is that fair? Have farmers REALLY got beef with the hedgehogs and the bunny rabbits? Why? And should they have all their subsidies taken away?

Plus, we interview superstar investigative journalist Kyla Mandel from Desmog UK about ExxonMobil’s sneaky lobbying against electric cars.

And is Dave going to have to eat grass until he’s sick?

Sustainababble is your weekly comedy podcast about politics, prattle and the planet. Out Mondays.

Music by Dicky Moore from Bearcraft and Dream Themes.

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