The world’s most notorious climate denier is about to become the most world’s most powerful man. AAARGH!

Ol and Dave, back from their hols, are properly freaking out. Is it time to put away the placards and give up?  Has America just doomed the planet?

They interview American climate campaigner Janet Redman (@janetredman_DC) in  search for some reasons to be even slightly cheerful.  And, surprisingly, they actually find some.

Sustainababble is your weekly comedy podcast about politics, prattle and the planet.

Music by Dicky Moore from Bearcraft and Dream Themes.

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