We chat to an actual proper Harvard Professor, blessed with a brain as large as her laugh. Author, activist and splendid person Naomi Oreskes – crusading scourge of Inhofes everywhere – tells us why we should trust science (spoiler: because it’s science).

In a giggle-packed natter, Dave and Ol learn all about how science is done when it’s done properly, how come so many Americans think climate change is a communist lie, and what you should do if your dentist smells of pork.

All this, and Dave gets a proper telling off for his terrible interview technique – not before time.

You can follow Naomi on Twitter @naomioreskes. Her new book, ‘Trust in Science’, is out imminently.

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